Why fear testing if what you say is true. I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. Mental facilities will be empty because everyone will be given a sound mind, just like the man with the legion of demons in him. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and to regularly receive divine visions. Chas351 God has not changed, He still does miracles as signs following the gospel, and praise Him for it! Doves dung represents a past movement of the Holy Spirit, a great revival from the past, but now long dead, that has been denomination-alized in the attempt to keep it alive beyond its time. This is what is fundamentally and pervasively wrong with the religious zealots of today- they are trying to usurp and replace what ONLY Jesus can do IN THEM AND THROUGH THEM. Praise God that He has given Torben this gift! I dont want to put myself on par with Jesus and assume my obedience to the Father is perfect; it isnt. Jesus is 100% God but He also was and is and always will be a very easy and normal MAN and to live with. Please check your information and try again or call us at 1-800-759-0700. Billy Graham and Billy Sunday started it all they would preach for an hour, sing, and do the invitation. They were all very obvious. I mean lets get serious now, how many of you reading this article thought to yourself, why do they get this gift and I dont? 1 I just cried watching the video. Jesus Himself came back to give us this message in Rev 7:14 These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washedtheirrobes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.. To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are 330 references to the figures, shadows, types, patterns, persons & buildings of the Old Testament. This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! True Faithnot Emotional Faith.but TRUE FAITH believes in the TOTAL SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. ALL sin is ROOTED IN UNBELIEF. Sndergaard and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. The simplicity, the sincerity & humbleness is so refreshing to see. Andrew Strom COMMENTS? The healed man stood in total shock, then started moving his arm and feeling of it with his other hand, awed by the miracle. Many confessing christians are surrounded by familiar spirits because of unrepentant sins; Many are INFLUENCED by principalities and powers because of a lack of Walking by the Holy Spirit. They will walk into a childrens hospital and clear it out, even patients who had chemo for cancer will have their hair grow back. Im really excited about God doing miracles in EvangelismBut like someone else already pointed out: Shouldnt one also combine these Healings with the Gospel of Repentance? Jesus died for US and it was done perfectly! I left it that and said, Lord Thy will be done Let God arise and let His enemies be scattered ! I have heard the context of that statement explained by Bill Johnson in one of his sermons, He clearly stated in that sermon that Jesus is God and then he said that Jesus didnt perform His miracles as God but as Man, He explained that he was making the point and he was very clear on this in his sermon that we as born again believers can do empowered by the Holy Spirit the same miracles which Jesus completed while He was on earth as Jesus wasnt using His Divinity to perform those miracles but was performed them as a surrendered Man to the will of God, i.e. a) (Qal) Did every person that Jesus heal get born again? The staff of Moses that he had in his hand turned into a snake as a sign to the Egyptians, we do not read of this miracle occurring later outside of Egypt..so think about what it was speaking to them. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Susan healing is for everywhere, not just outside the church. Dont get into a RUT and EXPECT the Holy Spirit to work in the same way He did the last time you noticed Him working. Lets all just accept each other on ONE BASIS ALONE- JESUS DEATH AND SPIRIT IN US- and lets all together just surrender and yield to His Holy Spirit in us and lets just each one do and speak whatever JESUS MOVES US TO DO AND SAY. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 : Those who have reverence for the Lord live.. USA: 210 Democrats vote against bill requiring.. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 . But Amen Barry, the things I have encountered and seen are incredibly weird. Attributing some of the esoteric and bizzare paychotic behavior manifestations of the historic revivals ( which was highly suspect in the eyes of most revival leaders of previous generations) AS NORMAL. Seymour spoke with a man who had lost his arm ten years earlier through a work-related accident. Be careful, God will warn you many times that playing with FIRE is dangerous, and in the end will hand you over to the delusion you begged and pleaded for because you refuse to repent. HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? Or, would he just rebuke the illness, and be on to the next person? 3.Arent all the epistles (Rom to Rev) written to baptized(fully immersed) communities who started taking up their cross to follow Jesus pattern1Ti 1:16? Jesus is coming soooooon, His return is imminent. Jesus healed him. It is starting to get gangrene where the wooden leg attaches. To all you dear brethren who choose to criticize, please repent and instead get out there and do it. 4 But I have this [one charge to make] against you: that you have left (abandoned) the love that you had at first [you have deserted Me, your first love]. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023. 2) to stand in awe of, be awed Sndergaard's immigration trial has been set for December 13. `in His hand is a sharp sickle.`. Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing What flesh can resist that over time! He doesnt pander to the fallen flesh of man that craves excitement and goosepimples.He does works according to His own will and purposes, to show His love and kindness and authority, to open receptive hearts, etc, but not by way of cow-towing or showing off. Jda016, you are absolutely right on in your discernment above..it is witchcraft. Also, please read what our Jesus did. 357 talking about this. It is not his teachings that I have flagged so much. Jesus is the gifted One in us- why should we be defined by a certain gift or let our works be defined by certain gifts when we can do whatever Jesus can do and wants to do in us. Stephen St. Louis..your post was SO on target. happening. For instance, if God can stretch a leg out 1/2 or so, why not find an amputee and in the name of Jesus command the limb to grow back? This i believe: Jesus was emphasizing both the Water and His pending Holy Spirit in Jhn 3:5 Faith, maybe. The manna that came down from heaven.miraculously. We strive like Paul towards the prize of the High Calling in Christ Jesus. He believes that the Holy Spirit, acting through him, can heal people. Perhaps the organized church has been to PRE-OCCUPIED with fighting with their flesh a battle that has already been won by Jesus Christ on the cross. They have also filed a defamation lawsuit against a North Carolina man who Sndergaard's legal team claims has been publishing false information about the Danish preacher. But they sought God in prayer and fasting and rose up believing. . I believed that I had been healed by God. You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! I also believe that `experiencing,` comes through being changed into His likeness, which is the most amazing work of God in our lives. God is everywhereeven in the news. Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think [of himself] more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. "The beauty of it was that in the course of explaining and teaching the court about what it means to walk out one's faith as a Christian, Torben was able to share scripture.". If there is one charlatan, then they rebuke all who perform wonders and healings in the Name of Jesus. Its a little annoying in other articles when everyone is living in the future worrying about the thousand year reign and who does what during the tribulation. I hate those gift inventories for this reason. One more thing. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. b) of those struck with amazement You strain a gnat an swallow a camel! It look WAY too much like the Todd Bentleys and the other hucksters of the world. We dont rely on one event or one experience as the whole crux of our spiritual salvation. The devil visited Jesus, just as the devil visits us in one form or another. it deeply grieves me to see people getting so cynical that they The Key is always Humility and most importantly Giving God all the Glory. Such being the case, we must go to the Bible to determine God's will with regard to modern - day apostles. Andrew, why do you attack the truth in the age of deception? This is what deception is all about. 1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared I agree that Christ is the focus, and that He is the key actually (Key of David) and also that the Holy Spirit is our guide and teacher, amen. Great stuff! So when Moses comes back down the mountain the second time his face shone and he would hide it because the glory would fade. Thank you Andrew for this next follow up of Torben. Have no more condemnation, because im walking in repentance, & am Spirit lead. Torben is actually seeing it work IN PRACTICE. amount of `gobly gook.`. See article on biblical explanation of. My thoughts are this, it is absolutely a wonderful thing and most important to see this taking place in the world in which we live. This sectarianism which Jesus condemned, is the spirit which dominated the Roman Church and was inherited by the Protestants. I had a marvelous confirmation of this word I speak. Bless you. That is a hard material and so leaves me to see that God broke His own commands, not Moses. This supernatural revival among the normal ordinary folk that I prophesied about is waiting for us to cease from our religious striving, place all our hope and confidence in Jesus alone plus nothing of ourselves, surrender and yield to the Holy Spirit who will come like a pent up flood when we do. Jesus condemned the Pharisees not because they did not belong to His group, but because of their hypocrisy, untruthfulness and lack of love. (Luke 24: 27), And isn`t this what Andrew Strom is encouraging us to do, (kings of the east?) Danish TV infiltrated his ministry with undercover reporters for a documentary called "God's Best Children," which lumped Torben in with other leaders of so-called "radical Christian" ministries who had had serious moral or ethical failures or even criminal activity. I believe God is Sovereign and all things happen for a reason, as i came to this site after looking up Leon du Preez( Thanks again), but just when i wanted to share that post, i found this one. Many months later, I was made aware that an O/S visitor with healing ministry was in the area I prayed about this and was convicted that God would heal me that evening. They complain about the driver, while they sit and do nothing. this is new age worship of another false Jesus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pvdl8HDmkA. If we do that then we would start to veer off the road towards the ditch. Why Jonathan Cahn and His Revelations Must be, Stephan Joubert se Deurlees van die Boek Openbaring, Terms and Conditions for Submission of Comments, Freemasonry / Ordo Novum Seclorum / Illuminati, Exposed: Holy Spirit vs Unholy Spirit of Fire. God Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. He had been criticized about his methods of evangelism. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Torben himself said we NEVER feel anything, but didnt Jesus feel something when the power of God flowed from Him into the woman who had the issue of blood? The government then investigated the Sndergaard family when they began homeschooling. Is that ever the truth! All glory to Yeshua who opens blind eyes, deaf ears, causes the lame to walk and the dead to rise. Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, Yeshua said, of myself I can do nothing but only what I see and hear of the Father. If you do not understand something it is better to be quiet because it is possible your fighting against God. Why did God allow Korban to include the scammers an fakes favorite trick as part of this video? Subtley shifting the focus away from the divine purpose of revival from repentance and faith in Jesus alone towards centralizing and making WIRRDSVILLE the main objective of revival. Note the reference in the NT to the elders laying on of hands on the sick. This is nothing but human sorcery at its worst . Baptizing you in water is a way of taking you back to the Hebrew way of doing things, and you push Jesus Christ completely out of the picture as the One who forgives you of your sin, instead the immersion in water is what forgives you instead. Each person has their own homemade version/definition of what that means. he works through us and not we ourselves. In one of those statements what Paul feared was that they were departing from the simplicity that is in Christ. 1 John 3:5. Remove the hardness and scar tissues of doubt, unbelief, ungodly fear and incredulity we recieved from those days of past deception. Torben Kjr Sndergaard, bedre kendt som Torben Sndergaard (fdt 9. august 1976 [2] ), er en dansk radikal kristen forkynder fra Brande i Danmark. People who claim to be believe in Jesus who dont even recognize Him when He is in one if His servants doing exactly what He always does- loving ordinary people, healing the sick, casting out demons and preaching good news??? You missed the entire divine point and purpose of the video- to show that Jesus still uses ordinary , humble, weak nobodies to do his marvelous works. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Jesus also gave the great commission, in Mat 28:18-20 saying All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. For the promise is to you and your children and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call. Jhn 17:15 NASB I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but (I ask You) TO KEEP THEM FROM THE EVIL ONE. The lawsuit states the belief that Sndergaard's arrest by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement(ICE) officerwas based on "anonymous tips" that "originated from (the) Defendant's misinformation.". If it is truly the work of the Holy Spirit, then why wouldnt those healed recognize this and repent and declare Jesus as Lord? Holy Spirit encouragement is rare these days. There isnt any! , (John 1:33) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.. I turn on the water in our shower and, lo and behold, all the dirt, dust etc. Paul was always on guard for the church and admonishing and warning constantly with the help of the Holy Spirit, and with good reason. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. I just read 1 Kings 18. After all, Paul was not sinless like Jesus. No one has to prove to you that people got healed , Dont you know that? And yes the first video was full of evidence that we are dealing with a genuine and anointed man of God. Yes. We have to go Thanks, Andrew keep posting the solutions. I find that rather humorous, considering I have seen the things of the Spirit, and believed in the moving of Gods Spirit, since I was 8-10 years old. Some fall into the ditch Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. Agreed Andrew.avoid those who 2Tim3v5,,,,have a form of godliness but deny the power.we need miracles and healings etc .and oh how we need discerning of spirits to get delivered from the power of darkness and lazy religious demons.. Jesus hasnt changed! Torben Sndergaard was born in 1976 in a non-christian family. However, I watched the second video first. You will receive an email and you will need to confirm your subscription. That may have been more of satans intent than the immediate deceptions he caused. nitpick every instance of the supernatural or the gifts of the Sndergaard was arrested on June 30 in Orlando, Florida for "gun smuggling," even though he was never charged with that crime and vehemently denies any such activity. AUTHenticity= AUTHor, AUTHority It is all about Him and not of us at all. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out and saying, Men, why are you doing these things? The healer used the leg pulling method I felt fire through my legs and into my lower back. So, you may now attack the truth once again. Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. He was a new believer who just found out about the Grace of God, the redemption of the cross, the Word of God. Have you ever noticed that Noah and his family were saved THROUGH water and not by being immersed IN water. If we just go by what we think the Holy Spirit is saying we can over ride Him in our carnal thinking, or if we just rely on our thoughts of the Word we also get into trouble. Spirit of FIRE enters person and they start to speak in tongues, convulse, jerk, have visions, etc. Because that which is of God is not weird but is HOLY. Using Jesus' words in Luke chapter 10, Torben refreshingly reveals that Jesus' message was not only for His disciples and those who lived during that period of time . Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. John spoke of this again in 1Jo 5:8 Because you will be lying to yourself and worst of all God Himself. it was very common in the early church and i just studed Jude , one chapter . Our church is starting to get into witnessing on the street and giving out gospel tracts and such. It might seem like a small thing but faith is built in little steps. Does anyone know whats happened to Randall Lowrey? However I can understand the skepticism of people not about the miracles but the structure and functioning of christianity. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . "Emotionally, this has been one of the hardest things I've ever experienced in my life, and it has been very humbling, and I have learned endurance like never before, and that it is important not to live by our feelings and emotions but to walk by the Spirit," Torben wrote in a recent Facebook post. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. (Mark 9:14, 16-18 NASB). Just like Jesus did with his own disciples. The basis for the healing rooms training, techniques, and charge of admission is not found in the Bible. First, she told about the man with the wooden leg. Excerpt taken from Your Power In The Holy Spirit By John G Lake. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. He said that it would not only be one or two places, but it would be all over the country. WHO does the KEEPING? I told Your disciples to cast it out, and they could not do it. 2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. Sometimes it is our fear for anothers situation which prompts intercession, the sharing of warnings, admonishments or what-have-you. Its easier to do real miracles, but The harder ministry is the message of REPENTANCE and Remission of sins. Torben believes in taking new Christians out on the street very quickly to pray for the sick and share the gospel. Just like Jesus did with his own disciples. forward into the True thing. As for me, I will stand on Gods word and challenge anyone who would do otherwise to bring forth objective evidence that these healings are from God. Because he wants to give us the more. The Call of Jesus, by Torben Sondergaard, is like an easy to understand instruction manual pulled from Scripture to help us effectively live the life to which Jesus has called us. Marie, i agree, there are people like what you describe. I have never see one video (much less the one with Torben) providing evidence of objective healings. Walking by the Holy Spirit is being FILLED with DIVINE Love, DIVINE Peace, DIVINE Faith, DIVINE Joy, DIVINE Meekness, DIVINE Longsuffering, DIVINE Temperance, DIVINE Gentleness, DIVINE Goodness. Etc, etc. All that Christ wanted was faith in Himself. The gifts that are talked about in the NT are not like a pack of pencils that are doled out 1 to each person. I say Thank God that He is NOT a comfortable little idol that fulfills mankinds desires, dreams, and PERFORMS according to mankinds EXPECTATIONS. But it seems there is a lot of cynicism out there. And God really isnt interested whether you like what He is doing or not. Many Christians will fall into deception because of this speaking in tongues phenomenon and the Spirit of Fire that accompanies speaking in tongues. I prevail upon all here not to fall into the ways of the world and engage in these ad hominem attacks. I may have been a bit unclear in my position regarding what Chas 351 has said. Amen Roger, good wordsimplicity. Ultimately, God has to show this to you, not me. He never flattered people in power, such as Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea, enticing them to join His group and help Him If He had compromised with the Pharisees, He could probably have obtained worldly influence easily. ship. The MOLECULES in Jesus body dis-assembled and went through a wall and then re-assembled. Lightning amen! Oh and Moses staff turned into a snake. So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? It would be hard for God to grow a leg out when the wooden leg is attached. Torben has been in jail since his arrest when authorities shackled him hand and foot like a terrorist. I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. Update from Friends of Torben. And indeed we must maintain the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. 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